How many iphone 4s you had replced since it came out due to batery problem?
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How many iphone 4s you had replced since it came out due to batery problem?
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cvipgo said:
I have had many replacements..but with my iPhone 4 and iPod 4.
Make sure that you do a full cycle charge before determining poor battery quality.
Charge to 100%...then let drain to around 5%, then charge to 100% preferably without using the device while charging it using it as little as possible.
Are you new to the iPhone..if so? Then well...chances are your use the great battery life that dumb phones have.
Any smart phone whether it be Android or IOS is going to drain fast compared to any dumb phones.
It is normal to get 6-8 hours "usage" before the battery dies.
My iphone 4 (not a 4s) battery lasts a longtime.
Bought it new last week and i can browse all day from 100% and in
3hrs its around 70-75% left.
I can call and talk for hrs on end, well ok at least 5-6 hrs before charging
it up.
I browsing now on it and it was at 85% and now its at 73% but thats cause i talked for a bit earlier and
broswes online for the past hr or so.
You should be able under limited amount of usage get at least 12hrs - 14hrs per day.
Under usuage like i do, you would get about 5-8hrs depends on how much you talk.
I turned off as many settings as i could that i don't use and only put them on when i need to, example: Wifi, Bluetooth and more.
Bought it new last week and i can browse all day from 100% and in
3hrs its around 70-75% left.
I can call and talk for hrs on end, well ok at least 5-6 hrs before charging
it up.
I browsing now on it and it was at 85% and now its at 73% but thats cause i talked for a bit earlier and
broswes online for the past hr or so.
You should be able under limited amount of usage get at least 12hrs - 14hrs per day.
Under usuage like i do, you would get about 5-8hrs depends on how much you talk.
I turned off as many settings as i could that i don't use and only put them on when i need to, example: Wifi, Bluetooth and more.
My 3gs battery is just about a year old next month, bought the phone brand
new from my service provider and its still gets 12-15hrs on limited usage
and about same as my iphone 4 for average usage 6-8hrs.
Its all in how you charge the battery and if you abuse it or not, bad battey charging
habits will definately hurt it in time.
My old blackberry 9000 still today the battery in it functions as it did 3yrs ago when i
bought the phone brand new. I read so much about ppl complaining about battery drain and dying fast.
I think i can run my own blog about how many times i read such stuff.
Ppl really need to learn to use these phones all cell phones on a limited amount of
usage, meaning if your wanting to play games all day long and then call ppl and text ppl and
browse the internet as well. Your going to expect 4-6hrs on a charge 20% before you charge it.
Never let the battery go below 20% unless your wanting to kill it fast or your doing your once a month
recycle charge.
If you abuse the phone and charge and charge and charge and play games or browse or what have you while
your charge and charge your going to have a dead battery very soon or within a year.
Take care of it properly and you will do fine.
Of course there is batteries that may be from a bad batch going around, but thats in probably 10% of the
phones sold out there. So if its dying within a day from no usage then there is an issue. It could also happen after an update of the Ios it may become slow or die faster, so you best then to do a setup as new, then a restore of your backup, then do 2 cycle charges = let it go to 0% and shut down and charge it fully, then do it again. The battery should be fine afterwards and again turn off stuff you not going to use right away.
new from my service provider and its still gets 12-15hrs on limited usage
and about same as my iphone 4 for average usage 6-8hrs.
Its all in how you charge the battery and if you abuse it or not, bad battey charging
habits will definately hurt it in time.
My old blackberry 9000 still today the battery in it functions as it did 3yrs ago when i
bought the phone brand new. I read so much about ppl complaining about battery drain and dying fast.
I think i can run my own blog about how many times i read such stuff.
Ppl really need to learn to use these phones all cell phones on a limited amount of
usage, meaning if your wanting to play games all day long and then call ppl and text ppl and
browse the internet as well. Your going to expect 4-6hrs on a charge 20% before you charge it.
Never let the battery go below 20% unless your wanting to kill it fast or your doing your once a month
recycle charge.
If you abuse the phone and charge and charge and charge and play games or browse or what have you while
your charge and charge your going to have a dead battery very soon or within a year.
Take care of it properly and you will do fine.
Of course there is batteries that may be from a bad batch going around, but thats in probably 10% of the
phones sold out there. So if its dying within a day from no usage then there is an issue. It could also happen after an update of the Ios it may become slow or die faster, so you best then to do a setup as new, then a restore of your backup, then do 2 cycle charges = let it go to 0% and shut down and charge it fully, then do it again. The battery should be fine afterwards and again turn off stuff you not going to use right away.
XamDam said:
You cannot setup as new and restore from backup at the same time. It defeats the purpose 100%.
If your going to restore to resolve any type of problem, whether it be battery or otherwise, the. Setup as new device, and not from a backup.
To put as simply as possible you should recharge your phone back to 100% after it gets to about 30% battery life...with the exception of letting it drain down real far for a cycle charge once month
The less you use your phone *while* it's charging the longer the battery is going to lasts.
I always get the best battery usage when I charge my device from around 35% or lower to 100% leaving it on charge a good 2 hours after it reaches 100%...and as I said...using the device as little as possible while charging yields the best results.
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Actually any number you give for that condition is 100% bogus. Stage 1 charging is the leading cause of anode plating (ie death of a battery). Which means the less time you stay in Stage 1 the better off you are. But that also depends on the temperature of the battery, the phone and the air around the phone. IE if the battery is at 50F while in Stage 1 charging for 80 minutes it will do less damage than a battery at 100F charging for 40 minutes in Stage 1. That is a chemical reaction issue that can not be changed.
The current industry standard is to try to spend less than 50 minutes in Stage 1 charging for the consumer grade Lithium-Ion batteries used in the iPhone. For the iPhone that equates to only allowing the phone to discharge to around 40% before placing it back on the charger.
Of course this is mostly moot since the average cell phone is only kept by the original owner for 18 to 24 months. Which is well within the life cycle of the batteries in use today.
I never mean't setup new and restore at sametime as i know you can't point was setup as new. Then restore to restore your apps and such afterwards from your badkup.
Yeah i find around 20-30% is best for me too when to charge to 100% and i also leave charge plug in for about 30min-1 hr after charge. I like doing so if most possible when i go to sleep, but if not i do so when i not going to use phone. I try and time it right.
Right now my battery is at 51% was at 73% when i started to post in this thread earlier. It will be at 20-30% in about 3-4hrs if i only browse and post here and there and if i don't call anyone and play any games
so that would be 6hrs of surfing net today, plus 2hrs of calling at least 6 ppl today and checking mail a few times today. Thats 8-9hrs approximate on moderate usage, which is normal for me.XamDam said:I never mean't setup new and restore at sametime as i know you can't point was setup as new. Then restore to restore your apps and such afterwards from your badkup.
Yeah i find around 20-30% is best for me too when to charge to 100% and i also leave charge plug in for about 30min-1 hr after charge. I like doing so if most possible when i go to sleep, but if not i do so when i not going to use phone. I try and time it right.
Right now my battery is at 51% was at 73% when i started to post in this thread earlier. It will be at 20-30% in about 3-4hrs if i only browse and post here and there and if i don't call anyone and play any games
Yep...about the same here.
Oh i agree about the temperature of the battery is a huge factor in death do we part scenario. Never charge a battery that is Hot, let cool down for hr or so before charging it and do so in a shaded area or cool place to limit over heating.
I expected most ppl would Know this info, but again there is plenty that don't.
Also overcharging will kill the battery, so its always a good idea to check your electric outlet to
see if it is pushing more electricity out then it should be as its a receipe for frying a battery or limiting its
charge rate very fast.
As for your 18-24 month theory of users having their phones, well its just that theory as like i mentioned my blackberry 9000 battery is till like new and its 3yrs old next month. I still use the phone when i travel as i is permantely unlocked.
So maybe the average people recyle their phones 18-24 months, there is some of us old fellas who don't need the newest thing evey so often.
My 3gs is a yr old next month and still awesome battery life like i noted about. Its still being used by my son and he was an android freak until now i showed him the dark side
You physically CAN NOT overcharge a consumer grade Lithium-Ion battery made in the last 8 or so years. There is a protection circuit built in to the battery to prevent that condition from ever happening. Plus the iPhone has a protection circuit in it as a secondary safety measure.
Your electrical outlet has NOTHING to do with pushing electricity to the battery and in NO WAY can it harm your battery. Period. The only scenario that can cause damage is a power spike of a few thousand volts or amps. And that will basically burn out everything attached to that outlet that isn't protected by a properly setup Zener Diode configuration with the ability to clamp the voltage and amperage in under 100 milliseconds.
BTW your outlet is AC (Alternating Current). Your battery is charged with Direct Current. The DC charger is setup for both voltage and max amperage. The iPhone needs 5 volts and can use anywhere from 500 millamps (USB port) to 2 amps (iPad charger). The only thing that can damage an iPhone is the wrong DC voltage since the battery dictates the current (amperage) draw.
XamDam said:Oh i agree about the temperature of the battery is a huge factor in death do we part scenario. Never charge a battery that is Hot, let cool down for hr or so before charging it and do so in a shaded area or cool place to limit over heating.
I expected most ppl would Know this info, but again there is plenty that don't.
Also overcharging will kill the battery, so its always a good idea to check your electric outlet to
see if it is pushing more electricity out then it should be as its a receipe for frying a battery or limiting its
charge rate very fast.
As for your 18-24 month theory of users having their phones, well its just that theory as like i mentioned my blackberry 9000 battery is till like new and its 3yrs old next month. I still use the phone when i travel as i is permantely unlocked.
So maybe the average people recyle their phones 18-24 months, there is some of us old fellas who don't need the newest thing evey so often.
My 3gs is a yr old next month and still awesome battery life like i noted about. Its still being used by my son and he was an android freak until now i showed him the dark side
Your pretty much right about everything except one thing:
You cannot "overcharge" the battery in your iPhone. It just cannot happen. It's basically impossible to do that. The knows when the battery is full and once it is full, only a slow steady current is provided only to keep the phone at 100%. This is why your battery will drain faster when you use it basically the whole time it's charging, or for a little bit rite before taking it off charge.
The iPhone just cannot be overcharged. As I said....it's basically impossible.
Can keep it on the charger for days, weeks, months with no I'll effect whatsoever.
Even says that in the iPhone user guide...it did anyway.
Well ok thats somewhat true, i should of said overheating the battery due to improper voltage going to it, you should google about cell phone batteries frying out from charging, basically melted the battery and the phones caught on fire, this was due to improper outlet voltage sending spikes to the phone.
I have tested a lot of outlets and there has been many times spikes occured during my testing. So far where i live its ok, but my last house was screwy in outlet voltage.
I just saying its safer to be safe to check the voltage outlets to make sure no spikes occur.
By the way i use UPS backup Boxes on most of my household items and at 300-500 a pop they work wonders to
save items from outages and spikes.
That is incorrect. The iPhone goes to Stage 4 charging for X minutes after hitting 100% and stops. It then cycles off till the battery falls below a certain voltage point and then starts Stage 4 charging back up.
BTW; I plan on writing an article to show exactly how an iPhone charges very soon because of all the misconceptions and bad information on the internet. I hope to get my pictures, video and test data done this Memorial Day weekend.
Improper DC voltage will burn out the iPhone long before you can charge the battery. Improper AC voltage to the DC charger can destroy the charger. Now how it destroys the charger is whether or not it can cause an issue with the charging the battery. But if you use Apple's DC charger, you will not have an issue since it is one of the best designed chargers on the market.
And I don't need Google to tell me how this works. 28 years as a certified electronics technician has taught me exactly how this works
. BTW all those horror stories go back to one of two things. Poorly designed circuits or human error. There hasn't been an investigation yet that didn't show exactly how the circuit was compromised and every time it was human error or an engineering/manufacturing error.Similar threads
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