So you switched from Android to iPhone. Are you happy?
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So you switched from Android to iPhone. Are you happy?
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Very interesting thread! I am having a similar debate within myself. I own an iMac and told myself after owning a PC for 6 years that I would go Apple all the way because Apple products are not only slick looking to the eye, but they seamlessly integrate with each other. I currently have, and have a little less than two weeks left to return it; a Droid X. I am having reservations with the DX.
I suppose the only thing that's holding me at bay with the DX is the larger display screen (even though it has a less resolution than the smaller iPhone 4 screen), the Swype feature (which is cool), being able to assign customized ringtones to SMS on a individual basis (provided by Handcent), etc. I gather however that the possible release of an iPhone 5 will bring these things (larger display, being able to assign customized ringtones to SMS on an individual basis) as well as some other things.
So, I'm sitting here wondering what to do. I've been to the Verizon store two times since getting the DX with the intentions on getting the iPhone 4, and every time I'd leave with the DX still in hand. It was always a situation where a rep would push the Droid and it's customizable features versus the iPhone and the customers inability to customize anything...ugh.
Yeah, I'm debating too....
I suppose the only thing that's holding me at bay with the DX is the larger display screen (even though it has a less resolution than the smaller iPhone 4 screen), the Swype feature (which is cool), being able to assign customized ringtones to SMS on a individual basis (provided by Handcent), etc. I gather however that the possible release of an iPhone 5 will bring these things (larger display, being able to assign customized ringtones to SMS on an individual basis) as well as some other things.
So, I'm sitting here wondering what to do. I've been to the Verizon store two times since getting the DX with the intentions on getting the iPhone 4, and every time I'd leave with the DX still in hand. It was always a situation where a rep would push the Droid and it's customizable features versus the iPhone and the customers inability to customize anything...ugh.
Yeah, I'm debating too....
I got rid of my droid x for the iphone 4. Sold it for $225, so it basically paid for my iphone with 2 year contract. X has a bigger screen but resolution is not that good, plus the laggy motoblur drove me nuts. Sure it has HDMI out, but you really cant stream movies without the app realhdmi which was a bad app. With the iphone i can stream netflix at 720p on my HDTV and also movies I have put on the phone. The iphone is a great little media player when travelling. Put the shows and movies I want on the phone, hook it up to the HDTV in the hotel room and watch whatever I want in HD. The X cant even come close to that.
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i switched from the droid x and dont get me wrong the android is the bomb, but i just like the iphone better, wish it could do some of the things the androids can do, but you can thank that piece of crap steve jobs!!
switched from droid to iphone and am never looking back.
i thought id miss customizing my phone and making it look unique and like no other, but honestly it was counter productive and caused more stress than joy because i changed it all the time.
i thought id miss customizing my phone and making it look unique and like no other, but honestly it was counter productive and caused more stress than joy because i changed it all the time.
I had an iphone 3g and iphone 3gs on at&t and finally reached a point where I couldn't take at&t's crappy service anymore. So I switched to verizon with an original Droid for a while, rooted and overclocked it to 1200mhz and lots of other stuff. Then got an Incredible for a while, rooted and did all the stuff all over again. The customization I miss some and of the other benefits like native gtalk but I don't miss the battery dying before the sun went down. All in all I don't have any regrets switching back to an iPhone that finally has a reputable carrier behind it. As long as theres jailbreaks all is good in iPhone world. Using MyWi to type this right now!
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ne!I just switched yesterday to an iPhone from a Droid X. But I would like to give my short summary for anyone on the fence visiting the forums like I did.
I was looking over the forums here for about a month trying to make up my mind. I took the plunge and I can honestly say that I am really impressed with it. (I am not an Apple person whatsoever BTW.)
I don't know if this has to do with the phone or network but to me it is the phone. The reception is better, call clarity's better, ease of use, etc. Using iTunes (which I never used before) was easy enough as well but I did have to look up things on what to do. I also updated iPhone no problem when prompted.
I picked up the 16GB one since I don't need a ton of songs, apps, movies, etc. I only put a few songs on along with the free apps I used with the X. I just wanted a phone that was simple, easy to use, and most of all dependable.
The only things that I will miss with the X is: The setting of individual ringtones. (Text to just vibrate, email notification off, etc. Not sure this can be done but I haven't found a way.) The other is the notification light.
But, the X was a good phone as well, I just feel that the iPhone is better for what I need in a dependable phone for work. My only complaint with the X was the constant missed calls (going right into VM), having to reboot 3+x a day so I would get email, and to make a call. I would try and call someone and it would do nothing unless I turned off/turned back on which reminded me of my old BB Storm.
If you're on the fence about an iPhone, I highly recommend it, I couldn't be happier and it's only been one day.
I was looking over the forums here for about a month trying to make up my mind. I took the plunge and I can honestly say that I am really impressed with it. (I am not an Apple person whatsoever BTW.)
I don't know if this has to do with the phone or network but to me it is the phone. The reception is better, call clarity's better, ease of use, etc. Using iTunes (which I never used before) was easy enough as well but I did have to look up things on what to do. I also updated iPhone no problem when prompted.
I picked up the 16GB one since I don't need a ton of songs, apps, movies, etc. I only put a few songs on along with the free apps I used with the X. I just wanted a phone that was simple, easy to use, and most of all dependable.
The only things that I will miss with the X is: The setting of individual ringtones. (Text to just vibrate, email notification off, etc. Not sure this can be done but I haven't found a way.) The other is the notification light.
But, the X was a good phone as well, I just feel that the iPhone is better for what I need in a dependable phone for work. My only complaint with the X was the constant missed calls (going right into VM), having to reboot 3+x a day so I would get email, and to make a call. I would try and call someone and it would do nothing unless I turned off/turned back on which reminded me of my old BB Storm.
If you're on the fence about an iPhone, I highly recommend it, I couldn't be happier and it's only been one day.
As far as the GPS, it's at least as accurate as my Droid was. I did miss Google maps only for the spoken street names and being able to use voice commands.
However, "MotionX Drive" is a wonderful app, and once I found it, I don't miss Google anymore. MotionX actually has more functionality, is easily as accurate, mapping a route does just as well. Highly recommended.
I was linked here by one of the forums I visit, and thought I'd share my own perspective. I am an Android user. Specifically an Droid X. No, I'm not here to start a fight, but I will get this out: I will never, ever use an iPhone. Mostly because of iTunes.
My experience is with a iPod Touch 3G. I got it because my car has a USB interface for music players. So I knew it really meant iPod interface and got the iPod Touch because I was on the fence with Android or iOS. When it comes down to it, I don't like how iTunes manages the music files. Yes, email, wifi, etc just works. But I can't manage my song files, playlists, and such the way I'm used to. I use Windows Explorer and WinAmp. Plus there was redundant entries, etc. Just made it a pain. I wanted one device that could manage my music and be a phone, and now I know I can't trust the iPhone. So, that left me with Android. But, to iTunes' credit: It was really easy to recover the device after my jailbreak failed the first time. It can be more difficult to do an Android device. Depending on the fault, though. Android devices can be recovered (sometimes!) from the device itself, without desktop computer support.
Now, this isn't to say that Android is the end-all, be-all. Android comes with it's fair share of issues, too. I never missed a call to the app being slow and some other random stuff that people here have mentioned. I did, however, have trouble connecting to my work's Wifi. Meaning it wouldn't at all. I would also have random reboots. App crashes, etc. But other Android users didn't have the same issue. Just seemed to be the DX. But the other Androids didn't have the power my DX had, so it's an interesting conundrum, isn't it? Have an underpowered phone or a phone that doesn't work right.
That's when I got into rooting. Because I figured there was no other alternative. And, more specifically, I got the Gingerbread leak. Gingerbread is the latest version of the phone OS. They have slightly different builts for tablets, and that is called Honeycomb. And I couldn't be happier with my DX. Gingerbread fixed a lot of issues, and most of the cons I have for Android disappeared with it. They tried to make it more user intuitive, like the iPhone, but keep the custom-ability (actually, they added to it) that Android is known for.
What I think would be the best is for the on-the-fence people to wait until Gingerbread is out on more phones and iPhone 5 (or at least iOS 5) to come out and do a direct comparison in the store. I think that's the only way you're really going to find out for yourself which device/OS works for you. Personally, I love widgets. They are another reason why I won't ever go to iPhone/iOS. Again, though, it is preference. Apps do seem to be more polished/feature laden on iOS. But there is nothing I haven't found an app for that I want on Android. So, to each their own.
My experience is with a iPod Touch 3G. I got it because my car has a USB interface for music players. So I knew it really meant iPod interface and got the iPod Touch because I was on the fence with Android or iOS. When it comes down to it, I don't like how iTunes manages the music files. Yes, email, wifi, etc just works. But I can't manage my song files, playlists, and such the way I'm used to. I use Windows Explorer and WinAmp. Plus there was redundant entries, etc. Just made it a pain. I wanted one device that could manage my music and be a phone, and now I know I can't trust the iPhone. So, that left me with Android. But, to iTunes' credit: It was really easy to recover the device after my jailbreak failed the first time. It can be more difficult to do an Android device. Depending on the fault, though. Android devices can be recovered (sometimes!) from the device itself, without desktop computer support.
Now, this isn't to say that Android is the end-all, be-all. Android comes with it's fair share of issues, too. I never missed a call to the app being slow and some other random stuff that people here have mentioned. I did, however, have trouble connecting to my work's Wifi. Meaning it wouldn't at all. I would also have random reboots. App crashes, etc. But other Android users didn't have the same issue. Just seemed to be the DX. But the other Androids didn't have the power my DX had, so it's an interesting conundrum, isn't it? Have an underpowered phone or a phone that doesn't work right.
That's when I got into rooting. Because I figured there was no other alternative. And, more specifically, I got the Gingerbread leak. Gingerbread is the latest version of the phone OS. They have slightly different builts for tablets, and that is called Honeycomb. And I couldn't be happier with my DX. Gingerbread fixed a lot of issues, and most of the cons I have for Android disappeared with it. They tried to make it more user intuitive, like the iPhone, but keep the custom-ability (actually, they added to it) that Android is known for.
What I think would be the best is for the on-the-fence people to wait until Gingerbread is out on more phones and iPhone 5 (or at least iOS 5) to come out and do a direct comparison in the store. I think that's the only way you're really going to find out for yourself which device/OS works for you. Personally, I love widgets. They are another reason why I won't ever go to iPhone/iOS. Again, though, it is preference. Apps do seem to be more polished/feature laden on iOS. But there is nothing I haven't found an app for that I want on Android. So, to each their own.
Your issues with iTunes is due to not spending the time to actually learn how to use the program properly.
Froyo (Android 2.2.x) on the DX is extremely stable. Your issue was due to the APPs you had chosen to install. Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x) does do a better job of addressing those issues caused by applications that have poor coding practices under Java.
Of course the number of issues you are going to have going forward will be interesting. In no particular order:
Which market, Amazons or Googles, will you buy apps from? If you choose to use both, you have to make sure you don't accidentally buy the same app twice.
Data privacy. 90% of the applications that have internet access now request permissions to look at your phone number. Why? So they can log it. Can't wait to see what they do with that information over time.
Which Antivirus package will you run? Android has now had at least a dozen trojans with over 50K users data stolen.
Permissions in an application. Do you actually know what data or feature is available to the application once you say yes to it? I am going to guess no.
And I am just waiting for the first app that finds a way around SuperUser and doesn't warn the user that the application has full access.
I spent 13 months in the ROM community for Android. Poured over 100K lines of source code from AOSP. Pulled the kernels apart to the point of knowing way too much about how the governors work. And after all that time invested in helping ROM makers figure out bugs in the code, writing up articles on OverClocking and dealing with applications that are sub-par, do you know what I ended up with?
An iPhone. Because it simply works and I don't have to worry about rooting to make the phone work properly to begin with.
Froyo (Android 2.2.x) on the DX is extremely stable. Your issue was due to the APPs you had chosen to install. Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x) does do a better job of addressing those issues caused by applications that have poor coding practices under Java.
Of course the number of issues you are going to have going forward will be interesting. In no particular order:
Which market, Amazons or Googles, will you buy apps from? If you choose to use both, you have to make sure you don't accidentally buy the same app twice.
Data privacy. 90% of the applications that have internet access now request permissions to look at your phone number. Why? So they can log it. Can't wait to see what they do with that information over time.
Which Antivirus package will you run? Android has now had at least a dozen trojans with over 50K users data stolen.
Permissions in an application. Do you actually know what data or feature is available to the application once you say yes to it? I am going to guess no.
And I am just waiting for the first app that finds a way around SuperUser and doesn't warn the user that the application has full access.
I spent 13 months in the ROM community for Android. Poured over 100K lines of source code from AOSP. Pulled the kernels apart to the point of knowing way too much about how the governors work. And after all that time invested in helping ROM makers figure out bugs in the code, writing up articles on OverClocking and dealing with applications that are sub-par, do you know what I ended up with?
An iPhone. Because it simply works and I don't have to worry about rooting to make the phone work properly to begin with.
There are many apps which u can use to manage your songs on your device except itunes. But to restore your iOS u do need computer and itunes, but no one restore his device everyday unless programers and even so... I do not find any pain using itunes anyway.
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You're a developer. That's fine and I can respect that. No really, I do. I think my tone here has came on a bit strong. I don't mean to be hostile. I mean to be objective. I hope you are doing the same.
Ok...iTunes. Why do I have to learn how to "use the program properly" when the slogan is "it just works"? I have no idea why Apple must convert everything to AAC and rename it. Why do I have to use 3rd party programs to pull music off the iPod/iPhone/whatever back to the computer? That, btw, is just as much of a cop out of an excuse that Android fanboys use. Also, you can't tell me that you haven't looked at the iTunes' library file on the device and not thought it was completely ridiculous. And after that, I figured why I was getting repeated songs. It would happen after I would sync a new playlist or something and for some reason, iTunes would duplicate songs instead of using the ones on the device already. I had used WinAMP primarily before iTunes, and I missed the simple "song xx is in <location>". Again, it's my own personal gripe. If iTunes works for the millions that use it, great for them. I'm actually happy for iTunes/iPhone users that like the system they have. It's just not for me, I loathe it and its need for control.
The iPhone hasn't been unscathed when it comes to malware, either. Yes, the app review process does filter as many bad apps as humanly possible. And it is more secure than the Android market. However, people (reviewers) get complacent. There will be more apps that get through, especially with iPhones still being the more popular smartphone out there. You still have to be cautious, but just not as cautious. I would not install apps to my ipod touch because they looked suspect, approved by the review process or not.
I do look at the permissions I'm giving apps before I load them, and hit cancel if I don't agree. I even look at the name of the publisher and the icon of the app. After being a Windows user, I'm naturally suspicious of applications. After rooting, I can even restrict individual app access to various services. As for the phone number, what can they really do other than call it? I'm on the do not call list, so I don't get solicitations, anyways. And I only add people I know to my friends list on Facebook, and restrictions are to friends-only. How many others here, or anywhere, do you think are even semi-security minded?
Will someone get around SuperUser? Maybe. But does anyone watch Cydia? I restored my iPod after using that because I didn't trust the amount that wanted to connect to the internet.
Overall, I really didn't mean to come here to bash iPhones. I did, in some ways, and I apologize for that. It really wasn't intentional. Believe it or not, I have directed more people to get iPhones than Androids. I'm not the only one, either. I often see Android users helping others that are getting frustrated by saying that, if they're still in their exchange window, trade it. Or even wait for the latest one to come out so they don't feel left behind. Why? Some people want simple. That's fine. It's your choice. I'm not a salesman. I gain nothing if someone picks up an Android device. I lose nothing if someone gets an iPhone. I don't like the iPhone because I don't like the music management, I like widgets, and I wanted to customize more on my phone. At the time, there was only AT&T, and I have had bad experiences with AT&T. That also played a part. There are different versions of hardware to get with different screen sizes and form factors. For some, that's a turn off. For some, that's important. I like my 4.3 inch screen. I like being able to switch my batteries or being able to remove it if I need to. I remember an old iPod having problems and I couldn't reset it. I had to leave it on and let the battery die. I've never liked that about the portal Apple devices. Some people want a small phone, and currently that's the iPhone.
Ok...iTunes. Why do I have to learn how to "use the program properly" when the slogan is "it just works"? I have no idea why Apple must convert everything to AAC and rename it. Why do I have to use 3rd party programs to pull music off the iPod/iPhone/whatever back to the computer? That, btw, is just as much of a cop out of an excuse that Android fanboys use. Also, you can't tell me that you haven't looked at the iTunes' library file on the device and not thought it was completely ridiculous. And after that, I figured why I was getting repeated songs. It would happen after I would sync a new playlist or something and for some reason, iTunes would duplicate songs instead of using the ones on the device already. I had used WinAMP primarily before iTunes, and I missed the simple "song xx is in <location>". Again, it's my own personal gripe. If iTunes works for the millions that use it, great for them. I'm actually happy for iTunes/iPhone users that like the system they have. It's just not for me, I loathe it and its need for control.
The iPhone hasn't been unscathed when it comes to malware, either. Yes, the app review process does filter as many bad apps as humanly possible. And it is more secure than the Android market. However, people (reviewers) get complacent. There will be more apps that get through, especially with iPhones still being the more popular smartphone out there. You still have to be cautious, but just not as cautious. I would not install apps to my ipod touch because they looked suspect, approved by the review process or not.
I do look at the permissions I'm giving apps before I load them, and hit cancel if I don't agree. I even look at the name of the publisher and the icon of the app. After being a Windows user, I'm naturally suspicious of applications. After rooting, I can even restrict individual app access to various services. As for the phone number, what can they really do other than call it? I'm on the do not call list, so I don't get solicitations, anyways. And I only add people I know to my friends list on Facebook, and restrictions are to friends-only. How many others here, or anywhere, do you think are even semi-security minded?
Will someone get around SuperUser? Maybe. But does anyone watch Cydia? I restored my iPod after using that because I didn't trust the amount that wanted to connect to the internet.
Overall, I really didn't mean to come here to bash iPhones. I did, in some ways, and I apologize for that. It really wasn't intentional. Believe it or not, I have directed more people to get iPhones than Androids. I'm not the only one, either. I often see Android users helping others that are getting frustrated by saying that, if they're still in their exchange window, trade it. Or even wait for the latest one to come out so they don't feel left behind. Why? Some people want simple. That's fine. It's your choice. I'm not a salesman. I gain nothing if someone picks up an Android device. I lose nothing if someone gets an iPhone. I don't like the iPhone because I don't like the music management, I like widgets, and I wanted to customize more on my phone. At the time, there was only AT&T, and I have had bad experiences with AT&T. That also played a part. There are different versions of hardware to get with different screen sizes and form factors. For some, that's a turn off. For some, that's important. I like my 4.3 inch screen. I like being able to switch my batteries or being able to remove it if I need to. I remember an old iPod having problems and I couldn't reset it. I had to leave it on and let the battery die. I've never liked that about the portal Apple devices. Some people want a small phone, and currently that's the iPhone.
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